从《枪炮、病菌与钢铁》谈起| 周末对谈

English Title——

Sunday conversation: Starting from Guns, Germs and Steel

题图出自Jared Diamond的个人网站主页：

http://jareddiamond.org/Jared_Diamond/Welcome.html

对话是2020年3月22日加葱和陶理的对话。

The conversation is between Jiacong and Hermione on 22nd March 2020.

尽管不能阻止，但我们不建议没读过这本书的人收听。

We do not suggest people who have not read this book to listen, although we cannot stop you.

录音分为两个部分：

The recording has two parts:

上图是加葱提供的，是他印象深刻的一页

The photo is provided by Jiacong, a page that impressed him

上述两张图都是加葱的笔记

The above two photos are Jiacong's notes

陶理还想说：

Hermione also wants to say:

我想说的基本上都在对话中说尽了。因为我每次都当成是最后一次说话，所以会尽力说出、说到我能说的边缘。

All I want to say are basically said. Becuase everytime I will consider this as the last time I say, I try to say the best I can.

最后温馨提醒所有的读者：

许多事都没有唯一的标准答案，我们欢迎你在可以讨论的时候真诚地用脑子好好思考，然后用我们都能听懂的语言交流。

A gentle reminder to all readers:

There are so many things without one standard answer, we welcome you to join the debate, think with your mind and talk in a language we all understand.

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附上带有作者名字的电子书网址链接：

https://b-ok.cc/g/Jared%20Diamond

以下是3月19号的时候陶理整理好的一份相关资源目录：

Jared Diamond 个人网站主页：

http://jareddiamond.org/Jared_Diamond/Welcome.html

This is the personal website of Jared Diamond, Professor of Geography at the University of California, Los Angeles.

2019年Jared Diamond与Yuval Noah Harari的对话

https://youtu.be/VLXHnGVp7ZU

（Yuval Noah Harari 是有历史学背景的学者，也是《人类简史》《未来简史》《今日简史》的作者，可以看豆瓣页面 https://book.douban.com/author/1168901/，但更建议看他的网站：https://www.ynharari.com）

2019年Bill Gates与Jared Dimond的对话

https://youtu.be/AVOyrj48MIM

TED Jared Diamond 有两个面向公众的演讲：

2013年

社会怎么更好地变老？

https://www.ted.com/talks/jared_diamond_how_societies_can_grow_old_better

2003年

社会为何崩溃？

https://www.ted.com/talks/jared_diamond_why_do_societies_collapse/discussion

Why do societies fail? With lessons from the Norse of Iron Age Greenland, deforested Easter Island and present-day Montana, Jared Diamond talks about the signs that collapse is near, and how -- if we see it in time -- we can prevent it.

（有30种字幕）

2005年同名纪录片b站页面：

https://www.bilibili.com/video/av61092542

【国家地理频道】枪炮病菌与钢铁 Guns Germs And Steel (2005)

（有中英双语字幕，感谢盗火者字幕组）

豆瓣书评页面：

枪炮、病菌与钢铁

https://book.douban.com/subject/1813841/